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#1 mrdee

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 12:57 PM

I am a bit confused and surprised when I look at how my MyCent credits go up lately.

It could be my imagination (although I don't think so), but it looks like my credits are increasing slower than they used to.
I still post regularly, but it seems to take an incredible mount of posts to get me into my next dollar.

An example: I used to have to make two, three at the most, posts of about one screen long (edit screen, that is) to make it into my next dollar.

I have noticed recently that, after making about five posts, some a bit shorter, but two or thre the usual length, I am stil within my same dollar.
I notice that my credits do increase, but, the last post I made, I was then at 70.74 MyCents, was the usual length of just over one edit frame long, and when I looked before I posted this post, it had gone up to 94.11 MyCent credits while, in the past, two similar post would have broughr me from one dollar to the next and now, they just seem to increase my amount a bit.

Am I mistaken or not?
Or is there a temporary fault on the MyCents system, or have the credits per post been decreased?

If anyone has experienced something similar, I would love to hear about it.

At the risk of repeating myself, I could, of course, be mistaken, in which case I would like to apologise, but I don't think my senses are playing tricks on me.

So, if anyone is in the same boat, please let me know.

Thank you in advance.

Edited by mrdee, 02 July 2011 - 12:58 PM.


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Posted 02 July 2011 - 01:12 PM

before you start jumping the gun about mycents handing out less, get rid of the other options first.... like

1: are you keeping track of all your posts?
2: making sure you are posting in categories that credit mycents?
3: understanding it's not the # of posts, it's the quality

i haven't seen a change before my warning level went up. i was getting the same as i always did, this was a couple weeks ago.

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 01:30 PM

I am not jumping the gun, I made an assumption, which, in my book, is a different thing.

To answer your questions:

1) I have recently after I began to assume something had changed.
2) I always look before posting wheter ther is a post count in the subject.
3) Could you explain what exactly is meant by "the quality of posts", what exactly the criteria are? (You are not going to tell me every post gets read to be given a quality label, are you? :) )

So, is the "quality" about the number of words in the post, or about something else?

I could then, myself, be able to give a clearer answer if I knew.
(After all, I think "quality" is not a very well chosen term, unless there is some sort of "quality control").

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 02:53 PM

well obviously the longer the post, the more quality it will have in it so i mentioned it because you didn't mention the quality of your posts. only the # of the posts.

i think i tested opaques algorythm once and it seems to me that quality isn't just based on how lengthy the post is, but the length is DEFIANTELY a part of the algorythm.

on the other hand, i have noticed opaque making small changes here and there recently. he has also posted a couple times(unless it was someone just reptending to be him :)). so many he did something. all i can say from my personal experience is that i haven't noticed a change.

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 04:57 PM

OK,
if length is one of the quality criteria, the I mentioned it a few times in my original post (although, maybe not 100% clear, as it is not easy to explain).

However, as I said, my posts are usually the same length 9sometimes longer, rarely shorter), the length I referred to I took the field in which ou write your post as a yardstick.

My post usually spans 1 fieldful of that (although I have never calculated how many words/sentences that would be).

So, when the post is finished and appears on the screen, it is about half a screen full.

Also (if that makes things a bit clearer, when I type my original post, it usually goes on until the scroll bar at the side appears, and usually goes on until the bar scrolls about 2 sentences.

I know, my explanation probably looks and sounds stupid, but that ia the best way I can try to make clear how long my posts usually are.

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 05:42 PM

try keeping track of your posts for 30 days. it's easy to go in to an editor and count the words of each post. when you get your mycents update letter, look at how many posts it's for. and go back to verify which posts it's for.

i don't know how much that would do for you though because then you would have to compare that data to a month earlier and you don't have that data.

but also, what exactly are you noticing? a significant difference? if it's a small difference, could it just be that you are mistaken?

it sucks when the admins aren't around to address these questions. i mean, even if there was a difference, it's not like anyone will do anything about it :) also, if there is a differce, everyone should be affected not just one user

like i said, i can't really answer fully because i haven't recieved an update in mycents for about 2 weeks now and it will probably be a couple months before i do :) i've been naughty.

i can tell you this though, i don't have the highest post count, but i DO have more credits than any other user. so take that in to consideration when trying to figure out how the credit system works :)i know i have over $600 accumulated. i have about 2840 posts with 2645 of them that counted for mycents. so that averages out to .227 a post. we had a discussion about how much an average post earns. .20 seemed to be about the average but some people were averaging more than me. i average about 1.5 posts a day which from my calculations should earn me an estimated average of about $10 a month. these estimates however don't take in to consideration word count or some other factors that may be included in the algorythm of how many credits can be earned per post. BUT! with carefull calculations and keeping track of your posts, you might be able to figure it out :)

personally, i just go with the flow. as many problem as i have with xisto, i know opaque isn't in the business of ripping people off, but he has yet to tell his members how the credit system is calculated.i think he may just take it to his grave :) it would be nice to know though so if it's not working properly or if there were any bugs, we'd be able to identify them more quickly

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Posted 02 July 2011 - 07:13 PM

The thing is: I do notice a considerable difference.

Compared to before, my credits are going up at a snail's pace.

I don't think we are being ripped off neither, but mistakes are easily made and no program o script is completely fool proof.

Maybe I will raise a ticket about it.

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 07:07 AM

start a ticket and put attn: opaque since this has to do with the forum and his coding. nobody else is qualified to answer over there. well.....nobody is qualified to do a lot of things over there as it is.

but yea, direct the ticket to opaque. it will get to him. post the thread link so he knows where to respond if he wants to decide to do it publically.

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 07:41 AM

Hi Mr.Dee!

I did notice that I did not receive the email from Xisto stating that I got some extra MyCENTs, but I just assumed that they gave me the credit for my posts and just did not email me. Yes, the email does provide more motivation to write and I just did not get it over the past couple of days. I guess it is something for me to investigate. I'm looking at my MyCENTs balance and the MyCENTs that I have already earned till this post and I will be keeping a track to make sure that it really is the MyCENTs that are awarded for a whole lot more than they used to be paid for.

If the MyCENTs awarded for posting really is much less than it used to be, then I think it would be a dis-inCENTive (pun unintended) and would turn a lot of people away from the forum. I wonder if it MyCENTs are awarded with the same scripts across all of the sites that participate in the Xisto network. There's the AstraHost that has a set of forums that I do not participate in much... perhaps just once in a blue moon, and I do not see a blue moon all that very often.

I have seen some updates to knowledge sutra, such as the knowledge sutra home page and so I am guess that there have been recent updates to the knowledge sutra MyCENT processing scripts too and that may have either credited my while the emails did not go out, or I did not get the MyDollars that I'm supposed to get when the MyCENTs listed on the forum exceeds 100 cents, or maybe even the scripts did hand me my MyCENTs but not as much as they used to hand me. I am going to wait and watch over the next couple of days, but just so that you know, you are not the only one out there with problems in having the MyCENTs credited to you. I am in that exact same boat and have noticed that the MyCENT emails that I was expecting were not in my email mail box.

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Posted 03 July 2011 - 11:56 AM

Right then,
I think it will be justified to raise a ticket on the matter, especially now that I see I am not the only one facing this problem.
I will do so after finishing this post and I am grateful for anwiii's suggestion to add "ATTN Opaque" to it, obviously hoping he will effectively get to see it, especially since he is the only one, being the maker of the script, qualified to reply to matters like this.

(Although, to be quite honest, the 'ordinary' Xisto staff does not seem to be very qualified to reply to tickets lately, let alone offering solutions, as I have just looked at my tickets and one of them has been closed for a second time without giving me a satisfactory answer or solution).

Anyway, I am glad that someone experiencing a similar problem posted here too, if only to show I was not just "jumping the gun" (won't mention any names on that one....).

So, I shall go and type my ticket now and see what they have to say, with thanks to anwiii for the tip of putting it to Opaque directly and while also expressing my gratitude to k_nitin_r for sharing his experience in facing similar problems with us.

I will keep you posted on the outcome.

Thanks again.

In the mean time, the ticket has been submitted, so I shall wait and see now.

Edited by mrdee, 03 July 2011 - 12:12 PM.





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